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The Mind Over Finger Podcast

Jan 28, 2022

Today I have two wonderful guests for you -  Kelley McGarry and Jesus Sáenz. These two musicians were brought together by a desire to make music accessible to all, and when the pandemic hit, founded Musicians for the World.

Musicians for the World is a non-profit organization dedicated to creating “a world where opportunity is accessible to those who dream of it, no matter their geographic location or socioeconomic standing.”

They’ve created global partnerships with schools in several countries (likely not the first countries you’d think of!), collaborations with festivals, universities, and competitions, and they hold masterclass series with world-class artists.

Kelley and Jesus have already made such a difference in the world through music, and will only continue to spread music education across the globe. Make sure to stick around to the episode for ways that you can help today!

In our conversation, we discuss:

  • How Jesus and Kelley each found their starts in music (2:53)
  • The origin story of Musicians of the World and what’s behind their mission (5:29)
  • Particularly fun anecdotes from students, and some of the professional musicians Musicians of the World has partnered with to teach classes (10:33)
  • The impact their organization has not just on their students’ playing, but their own playing, and the musicianship of the other teachers they work with (15:33)
  • What we could do today to start creating change through music… starting with Google! (19:40)
  • The doubts and resistance they have met while running this nonprofit, as well as some of the brightest moments from this journey (21:55)
  • Tools that have been particularly efficient for their own playing and for their students (27:41)





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A HUGE thank you to my fantastic producer, Bella Kelly, who works really hard to make this podcast as pleasant to listen to as possible for you.

Most sincere thank you to composer Jim Stephenson who graciously provided the show’s musical theme.  Concerto #1 for Trumpet and Chamber Orchestra – Movement 2: Allegro con Brio, performed by Jeffrey Work, trumpet, and the Lake Forest Symphony, conducted by Jim Stephenson.

Thank you to pianist-singer-song-writer Louise Kelly for the introduction!  You can find out more about Kelly and her creative work by visiting